Legislature(2005 - 2006)CAPITOL 106

04/05/2005 03:00 PM House HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVICES


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03:06:46 PM Start
03:08:00 PM HB14
03:31:47 PM HB214
04:03:43 PM HB13
04:32:06 PM Professional Teaching Practices Commission
04:33:28 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Recessed to a call of the Chair --
+ Confirmation Hearing: Professional TELECONFERENCED
Teaching Practices Comm.
HB 214 ANATOMICAL GIFTS
Moved CSHB 214(HES) Out of Committee
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
= HB 14 DISCLOSURES BY FOSTER PARENTS
Moved CSHB 14(HES) Out of Committee
= HB 13 SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION BOND REIMBURSEMENT
Heard & Held
HB  14-DISCLOSURES BY FOSTER PARENTS                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON announced that the  first order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO. 14, "An  Act relating to disclosure of information                                                               
about a child or a child's family  to a legislator or a member of                                                               
a legislator's staff; and making conforming changes."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:08:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   NORMAN  ROKEBERG,   Alaska  State   Legislature,                                                               
sponsor, informed  the committee that  the issue addressed  in HB
14  was brought  to  his attention  when  reviewing the  multiple                                                               
problems  of  the  Office  of  Children's  Services  (OCS).    He                                                               
explained  that  he  decided  not   to  include  this  matter  in                                                               
Representative Coghill's  family right's  act because  the matter                                                               
is peculiar to  the legislature.  This legislation,  HB 14, would                                                               
provide legislators and staff further  access to information from                                                               
foster  parents,  who  are  currently  unable  to  converse  with                                                               
legislators about matters relating to a  child in need of aid  or                                                               
a child under their care.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:09:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HEATHER NOBREGA,  Staff to Representative Rokeberg,  Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, explained that  HB 14 allows foster  parents to call                                                               
legislators to discuss a child under  their care.  She noted that                                                               
the  language  on page  2,  line  2,  opens up  confidential  and                                                               
privileged  information  about  the  [foster]  child  or  his/her                                                               
family.   However, OCS is  opposed to allowing foster  parents to                                                               
disclose  confidential  and   privileged  information  about  the                                                               
foster  child's family,  and  therefore the  sponsor  is open  to                                                               
deleting the language referring to the foster child's family.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG  pointed   out  that  currently  natural                                                               
parents   can  talk   with  legislators.     He   mentioned  that                                                               
Representative  Gardner   had  spoken   with  him   regarding  an                                                               
amendment  addressing  guardians  ad  litem.   He  expressed  his                                                               
desire for the legislation to move forward.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:11:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOHRING inquired as to  why the state is reluctant                                                               
to  provide   the  information  [regarding  the   foster  child's                                                               
family].                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG  answered that  it's probably  related to                                                               
the  state's  policy  of  confidentiality,  which  he  opined  is                                                               
overreaching and has created a veil of secrecy.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:12:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  asked whether  the  people  to whom  this                                                               
information can  be disclosed include  a legislator's staff.   He                                                               
asked  if a  legislator's staff  would  be under  the same  legal                                                               
constraints as those named categories in the legislation.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  NOBREGA referred  to page  2, line  16, which  prohibits the                                                               
disclosure  of this  confidential and  privileged information  to                                                               
anyone not authorized to receive it [as specified in Section 1].                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:15:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TAMMY SANDOVAL, Acting Deputy  Commissioner, Office of Children's                                                               
Services,  Department of  Health and  Social Services,  said that                                                               
the  department wants  to be  responsive to  the needs  of foster                                                               
parents.   However,  AS 47.10.080(q)  clearly defines  and limits                                                               
the  information  to which  foster  parents  are entitled.    Per                                                               
statute, foster parents  are entitled to the  foster child's case                                                               
plan,  medical, mental  health,  and  educational information  in                                                               
order to  assist the foster  parent in providing the  proper care                                                               
and safety for  that foster child and his/her family.   That same                                                               
statute   also   requires   foster  parents   to   maintain   the                                                               
confidentiality  of records  regarding  a child  placed in  their                                                               
home, except when  the disclosure of the records  is necessary to                                                               
obtain medical  or educational services.   Ms.  Sandoval informed                                                               
the committee that many avenues  already exist to allow the input                                                               
of foster  parents when  making decisions  for the  foster child.                                                               
In  fact, foster  parents are  part  of the  regular case  review                                                               
system, which allows them to  express any concerns about the plan                                                               
or the services being provided.   Furthermore, foster parents are                                                               
allowed to  attend court  hearings and  provide testimony  to the                                                               
judge.  Ms. Sandoval highlighted  that foster parents are welcome                                                               
to contact the foster child's  social worker, the social worker's                                                               
supervisor,  a staff  manager, the  OCS manager,  as well  as the                                                               
central  office.   Moreover, foster  parents have  access to  the                                                               
formal process, which is now part of HB 53.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SANDOVAL  related  that  OCS's  experience  is  that  foster                                                               
parents don't  typically resort  to contacting  legislators about                                                               
services to children  per se, but rather at  times the attachment                                                               
between the foster parents and  the child cause the foster parent                                                               
to be  opposed to  the foster child  being reunited  with his/her                                                               
biological  family  or  other  permanency  plan.    Ms.  Sandoval                                                               
clarified, "We are not suggesting  that foster parents should not                                                               
have the  right to call  their elected officials  with complaints                                                               
and/or concerns about their interactions  with us, the goal is to                                                               
support them  in the best of  their ability."  She  expressed the                                                               
desire  of OCS  to respond  quickly and  resolve those  issues it                                                               
can, including issues about the  application process, foster care                                                               
licensure,   training,  monthly   payments  or   special  funding                                                               
requests, and  communication and support from  the social worker.                                                               
Ms.  Sandoval  specified  that   the  department  has  a  neutral                                                               
position  on  HB 14,  although  it  questions its  necessity  and                                                               
impact to existing law.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:19:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON expressed the desire  to be sure that there                                                               
is not a  difference of opinion with regard to  the answer to his                                                               
previous question.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. SANDOVAL,  in response to Representative  Seaton, related her                                                               
understanding that a  legislator's staff will now  be included in                                                               
the group  of individuals  who can  receive the  confidential and                                                               
privileged information.   She noted  that she had wondered  why a                                                               
legislator's  staff  was  pointed   out  as  different  than  "an                                                               
employee of  these persons", which  is the language used  on page                                                               
1, line 12.  With regard to  page 2, line 16, Ms. Sandoval opined                                                               
that criminal statutes apply.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON  surmised  then that  [a  legislator's  staff]  was                                                               
already included.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SANDOVAL  said  that  she believes  that  the  language  "an                                                               
employee of  these persons" does already  include [a legislator's                                                               
staff].                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CISSNA  inquired as  to the proper  procedures for                                                               
the disposal of confidential and privileged information.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. SANDOVAL  said that  she didn't  know what  guidelines direct                                                               
the legislature with regard to such records.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CISSNA  expressed  the   need  for  there  to  be                                                               
guidelines   for   legislators    regarding   the   disposal   of                                                               
confidential and privileged information.   She also expressed the                                                               
need for access to a shredder.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:23:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SANDOVAL, in  response to  Representative Seaton,  confirmed                                                               
that  the department  is in  favor  of Representative  Rokeberg's                                                               
suggestion to remove the references to "the child's family".                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:24:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CISSNA related  that  she  recently attended  the                                                               
Child Welfare  League's meeting on  performance measures.   Under                                                               
discussion at that  meeting was the recognition  of the imbalance                                                               
of  power,  mainly in  relation  to  natural parents.    However,                                                               
Representative  Cissna  opined that  it  also  applies to  foster                                                               
parents.   She related her  belief that having  legislators enter                                                               
the picture seems to equalize the situation a bit.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:26:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SANDOVAL said  that's why foster parents are  invited to come                                                               
to  court hearings  in  which  the judge  serves  as the  neutral                                                               
party.   She noted that there  are numerous ways in  which foster                                                               
parents can be heard by a neutral party.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  moved that the committee  adopt Conceptual                                                               
Amendment  1,  to delete  the  language  "for a  child's  family"                                                               
throughout the legislation,  including on page 1, line  1.  There                                                               
being no objection, Conceptual Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.   NOBREGA  clarified   that  there   are  locations   in  the                                                               
legislation  where  references  to the  "child's  family"  should                                                               
remain.    She suggested  only  deleting  the references  to  the                                                               
"child's family" that were inserted in statute by HB 14.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:28:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON moved to rescind  the committee's action in                                                               
adopting  Conceptual  Amendment 1.    There  being no  objection,                                                               
Conceptual Amendment 1 was rescinded.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:29:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON then  moved that  the committee  adopt New                                                               
Conceptual Amendment 1, as follows:                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 1:                                                                                                            
          Delete "or a child's family"                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 2:                                                                                                            
          Delete "or a child's family"                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
There  being  no  objection,  New   Conceptual  Amendment  1  was                                                               
adopted.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER opined  that  HB 14  is good  legislation                                                               
because  foster parents  are asked  to parent  a foster  child as                                                               
they would their own.  At the  same time, the hands of the foster                                                               
parents are  tied in that  they don't  always have access  to the                                                               
information that  they need.   Therefore, she expressed  the need                                                               
to  have  all  the  avenues   which  the  foster  parent  has  in                                                               
advocating for the foster child open.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:30:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOHRING moved to report  HB 14, as amended, out of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal  notes.    There  being no  objection,  CSHB  14(HES)  was                                                               
reported  from the  House Health,  Education and  Social Services                                                               
Standing Committee.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                

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